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Post by Gunner » Sun Oct 22, 2006 3:50 pm

OK LD, here you go...while I'm at it, I'll post a few of my finally finished chiller and heat exchanger :D

BTW Racer, you make my credit card banks very happy! :wink:


My new wallpaper:
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Right wing with Triplehead:
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Right wing without
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When I first posted to this thread, it was the day after I aborted my heat exchanger 'cause it leaked :oops: It was three months before I finished this new one(I was busy rolling and looping :wink: ) What you can't see inside the beautiful clear flask covered with insulation due to condensation, is 9 feet of 3/8" coiled copper tube.
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Had to add a silly plasma ball :D

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CPU, GPU, and Ambient temps
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Upper right is system water temp
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Post by Lawndart » Sun Oct 22, 2006 3:56 pm

:shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock:

"It's alive... it's alive..."
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Post by lqcorsa » Sun Oct 22, 2006 5:35 pm

WOW thats a lot of fun toys, what are your computer specs gunner?
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Post by Burner » Sun Oct 22, 2006 5:52 pm

11C CPU Temp!?! Its time for more overclocking ;)

Amazing job on the chilled water setup Gunner.
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Post by Gunner » Sun Oct 22, 2006 6:02 pm

lqcorsa wrote:WOW thats a lot of fun toys, what are your computer specs gunner?
Nothin special really - it looks much more intimidating than it is - I've just had fun playing with it :D

Athlon 64 3700+ overclocked to 2828MHz (stock is 2400)
BFG nVidia 6800 GT overclocked about 15%
Corsair XMS memory 1 GB
DFI 250gb Lanparty motherboard (great for overclocking)
Soundblaster X-Fi Platinum
Raptor 74 Gb main drive
Maxtor 300 gb data
WD 100 gb data

Gaming system 2 in black case:
Athlon 64 3200+ stock
BFG nVidia 6600 GT stock
Crucial memory 2 GB
MSI motherboard
Soundblaster Audigy2 ZS
And a little over a Terabyte on six drives

I've been holding off on upgading 'cause my motherboards are both 754 pin, but the TripleHead hit my framerates pretty good - time for
FX-57 and nVidia 7900!!
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Post by Lawndart » Sun Oct 22, 2006 6:21 pm

You should really look at getting the newer FX-series with dual core, such as the FX-60 or FX-62. If not Intel...

Here's a link from AMD to get you started: http://www.amd.com/us-en/Processors/Pro ... 56,00.html
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Post by Gunner » Sun Oct 22, 2006 6:26 pm

Lawndart wrote:You should really look at getting the newer FX-series with dual core, such as the FX-60 or FX-62. If not Intel...

Here's a link from AMD to get you started: http://www.amd.com/us-en/Processors/Pro ... 56,00.html
It's my understanding that dual core means nothing to LOMAC, same with SLI - if I'm wrong, I'll consider those. I found an FX-57 at newegg for $300 - hard to pass up! Also, the 57 is very overclockable!
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Post by Rhino » Sun Oct 22, 2006 7:27 pm

WARP POWER MR SCOTT!!
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Post by lqcorsa » Sun Oct 22, 2006 7:37 pm

Hey my computers higher end than yours gunner and just by looking at mine you would think I got it from Office Depot or something :lol: , I guess that has something to do with a normal, stock case, and no extra toys around it.

I'm SUPER interested in overclocking but just the thought of burning up my system makes me get the chills lol, I'd hate for 2K worth of money to go down the hole, but with me getting Fs-X on my birthday in a couple days I'm worried I wont be able to have all the extra eye candy and keep the 30+ frames. Gunner, I have no cooling systems installed in my PC but it usually runs at a fairly cool temperature, how dangerous is overclocking. I'd want to do an overclock of my graphics and processor.

Current CPU: AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual Core 3800+
Current GPU: ATI Radeon X800 256MB PCI-E

This also means I should overclock my weak power supply at the same time though huh?
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Post by Lawndart » Sun Oct 22, 2006 7:57 pm

Gunner wrote:It's my understanding that dual core means nothing to LOMAC, same with SLI - if I'm wrong, I'll consider those. I found an FX-57 at newegg for $300 - hard to pass up! Also, the 57 is very overclockable!
That's my understanding too. I've heard SLI is supported, but not implemented to get you a performance increase. I have SLI and an FX-57 myself and one or two GPU's makes little difference. The single core FX-57 runs Lock-On without any problems at all, but I was thinking more ahead than just running Lock-On or current games. There will come a day pretty soon (starting with Vista) when you wish you had a dual core processor as well as for the heaps of software to follow...
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Post by Gunner » Mon Oct 23, 2006 12:06 pm

lqcorsa wrote:Hey my computers higher end than yours gunner and just by looking at mine you would think I got it from Office Depot or something :lol: , I guess that has something to do with a normal, stock case, and no extra toys around it.

I'm SUPER interested in overclocking but just the thought of burning up my system makes me get the chills lol, I'd hate for 2K worth of money to go down the hole, but with me getting Fs-X on my birthday in a couple days I'm worried I wont be able to have all the extra eye candy and keep the 30+ frames. Gunner, I have no cooling systems installed in my PC but it usually runs at a fairly cool temperature, how dangerous is overclocking. I'd want to do an overclock of my graphics and processor.

Current CPU: AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual Core 3800+
Current GPU: ATI Radeon X800 256MB PCI-E

This also means I should overclock my weak power supply at the same time though huh?
Hey LQ -
Don't jump to conclusions on performance till you factor in the overclock :wink:
I don't want this thread to deteriorate into discussions about overclocking & such, and I'm afraid I might get a little longwinded on that subject. :roll:

I will say that with the proper cooling, there's not much danger in overclocking if you know what you're doing. The best guidance you can get is to find some overclocking forums specific to your mobo. Always keep in mind that you will shorten the life of your CPU and GPU as you must increase voltages to get a decent OC, but the dang things are obsolete within a year anyway... :lol:
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Post by Lawndart » Thu Oct 26, 2006 5:49 am

I just dug around in our Perch forum and found this link Cobra first had posted many months ago. It's a review of eMagin's 3D Visor Z800: http://www.simhq.com/_technology2/technology_080a.html

Here's the website: http://www.3dvisor.com/
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Post by Gunner » Thu Oct 26, 2006 12:13 pm

Dang it LD!
I'm never gonna get these credit cards paid off :!: :lol:

I was looking at that HMD before I decided to go with the TripleHead, but the 800 x 600 resolution scared me off. After reading the review however, my triplehead may already be obsolete...he just had to use LOMAC as his example of 3D :wink:

To quote the review:
"My A-10 flights were all low level and I have to say that the effect was profound. The impression of low level flight is magnificent! First there is the HUD and dashboard. The top of the dashboard is right there in front of me and I feel like I can reach out and put my coffee cup on top of it. Then, individual components of the gauge board are rendered in different depths. The 3D effect is very believable. It really feels like there is a dashboard in front of me.

It gets better as I un-pause the sim. Pines trees slide beneath me at 300 knots. To my left and right are the mountains also covered in foliage. Then I look up and back. The Plexiglas canopy feels like it is just an inch or so away from my face. It really feels like I can reach up and touch it. The small scratches in the glass add to the depth perception and I feel like I could lean sideways to see around the back of the ejection seat.

The canopy effect was even better in the F-15 as it is quite a bit longer than the A-10’s. Throwing the Eagle in some drastic maneuvers produced breath taking views. Spins are an entirely new creature with the Z800 as is high angle of attack stall maneuvers. When the ship is nose high/low, there is a definite “suspension of disbelief.” Altitude also feels more believable. The overall effect is truly awesome, not perfect, but awesome nonetheless.

I chase around a couple of MiGs for awhile. Spatially I can see them out in the air as a full blown entity and not as a TV style image. The planes feel like they are a physical distance from me. I can see the glint of metal in the sun, and when they turn their profile is 3D and wonderful."

He's not completely satisfied with quick view movement, but I may just have to try this.

I think this will decide it for me:
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Post by Rhino » Thu Oct 26, 2006 12:32 pm

Gunner wrote:Dang it LD!
I'm never gonna get these credit cards paid off :!: :lol:
Well, it is no longer the whopping $800 that it was advertised in the SimHq article, so maybe your creditors wont be bringing the backhoe in too soon!

Heres a link, only $549 now!

https://e-store.emagin.com/miva/merchant.mvc
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Post by Burner » Thu Oct 26, 2006 12:49 pm

$550!? If I weren't saving for a new system I would order one up right now. It was a close decision for me when it was $800.
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