I am number Eight Video

Ells · Post by **Ells** » Wed Mar 16, 2011 3:58 pm

The Virtual Red Arrows are pleased to present to you our latest video.

(note - for some reason the aspect ratio on Vimeo is off)

This is a video taken of a backseat ride in RED8's jet during a recent practice session.
You really get a great view from the backseat of the whole team and Gypo team whilst we fly some of the hardest show maneuvers in the aerobatic community.

We hope you like the video and look forward to displaying live for you soon,
RED8|Ells

Post by **Lawndart** » Wed Mar 16, 2011 4:30 pm

Watched this yesterday, very nice! That model is sweet.

You really need to fix the AR though, eek!

Post by **Ray** » Wed Mar 16, 2011 5:44 pm

Great video Ells, nice flying by all - the backseat view is pretty slick.

Thanks for sharing - looking forward to seeing your team perform!

I'll echo LD, see if you can re-render in the 16:9 aspect ratio.

Ells · Post by **Ells** » Wed Mar 16, 2011 8:09 pm

Thanks guys,
It is rendered in 16:9 widescreen but Vimeo squshed it back down to 4:3 as I didn't realise Vimeo was so "old school" and not widescreen.

If you take a look on our livestream VOD list www.livestream.com/vralive you'll see how it's supposed to look.

I'm uploading to our server tomorrow so you can download HD 16:9 if you want to.

Following our live show this weekend and the event in May, I'll put together another video.
Although it could never be as good as Smoke On. I still watch that on my iPhone on way to/from work with a big grin on my face.

Post by **Lawndart** » Wed Mar 16, 2011 8:20 pm

Ells wrote:Although it could never be as good as Smoke On. I still watch that on my iPhone on way to/from work with a big grin on my face.

Not to go off topic from your splendid video here, but I actually think Smoke On stinks... (personal, editor's POV of course). However, I'm most proud of what we accomplished with a sim that wasn't as developed as it is today, several generations older computer and flight gear etc., and antiquated internet by today's standards. Hardly any YouTube videos could be found of the real team for references when needed either. It was a very different time, and it wasn't even _that_ long ago. Just think about what you had in your rig six years ago to fly with and surf the internet with! (I mean, Facebook wasn't even "off campus" yet). Times have changed a lot since back then and it's hard to match the undertaking it took to make a video like that for its time... at the same time I'm confident we could to it a hundred times better today, if we tried!

Ells, you can't change the settings in your Vimeo account (and reupload)?... our videos there are WS format.

Anyway, pleasure to watch "I am number Eight". Keep us posted on the events this weekend and in May.

Ells · Post by **Ells** » Wed Mar 16, 2011 11:02 pm

Ah even said though, I still love watching it and hearing the music and the calls and takes me back to when I first saw it which got me hooked on formation flying, it's all because of you guys...shucks LOL.

Yeah you're right, I remember back to my very first modem and bulletin boards, pre internet, and that cost me £400 and it was a 28.8k modem, haha.
But then we are talking abut MS-DOS 3.1 which was even pre Windows.

God, I'm sounding way too old here and need to stop, haha.

I'll check the settings, thanks LD

Sawamura · Post by **Sawamura** » Thu Mar 17, 2011 1:50 pm

On YouTube or Vimeo, if you want HD resolution, you must render in HD, so 1280x720, 1920x1080.

Ells · Post by **Ells** » Thu Mar 17, 2011 2:39 pm

Hey Sawa,
Yeah it is rendered in 1080p but not sure what's happening.

Anywho here's the download link:
http://www.virtualredarrows.com/ells/I_ ... _Eight.wmv
(Right Click, Save As).

Sawamura · Post by **Sawamura** » Thu Mar 17, 2011 4:27 pm

Ells wrote:Hey Sawa,
Yeah it is rendered in 1080p but not sure what's happening.

I see that yours was rendered in 1440x1080. YouTube and Vimeo always use the excisting pixels, so in your case, it wasnt 16:9, even if you set a stretched aspect ratio to get to 16:9.

Post by **Lawndart** » Thu Mar 17, 2011 5:37 pm

Yes, Ells... Sawa is correct. You have to customize your render settings to use a pixel aspect ratio of 1.0000 (Square) and Width: 1920, Height: 1080. Do not use a pixel aspect ratio of 1.3333 (HDV 1080), as it's stretching the video to make the image 16:9 during playback (not supported by sites like YouTube and Vimeo).

Upon playback using most media players the image is properly scaled to 1920 x 1080 using square pixels.

With 1440x1080, the pixels are not square; rather, they are 1.3333 times as wide as they are tall. This is the pixel aspect ratio of HDV. Therefore, it only takes 1440 pixels to reach the correct width. When made 1920x1080, you are converting the pixels into squares, meaning there are now 1920 pixels required to make up the same width.

If you notice, 1920 / 1440 = 1.33333 ... (4:3). Therefore the pixels are 4:3, but the image is 16:9 with HDV.

Hope this makes sense.

"True" (1:1) 1080p HD takes more power to render and ends up being larger in filesize too than stretching the video as HDV does.

Further more, 1080p is by no means a limit, but has become industry standard (along with 720p). As you can imagine though, the raw power required to render more Megapixels goes up exponentially really fast when you render something in higher High Def. Dare to try 4320p?!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-definition_video

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-definition_television

Ells · Post by **Ells** » Thu Mar 17, 2011 7:58 pm

Ah ok cool guys, I understand now, I'll re-render it then.

I just selected the 1080p setting and thought that was it <novice> LOL