Modified Cockpit Reference Lines

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Modified Cockpit Reference Lines

Post by JaBog32_Dirty » Wed Jun 22, 2005 2:34 pm

Hey Thunderbirds,

I've been using your liftlines for the last couple of weeks, and I found them to be very helpful. Much better than flying without any visual aids in the cockpit. I found a way to improve them though. After a little bit of getting used to, it now works great for me.

The problem I had with the old ones was this:
The tip of the arrow was the only real reference to fly with. It was approximately at your two/ten o'clock position. If the arrow moved towards lead's nose, it could mean "your faster" as well as "your drifting away to the side" and vice versa. I am sure all of you know what I'm talking about :-)

What I wanted was a clear and precise indicator that tells me weather I'm to fast or too slow. I drew a "3/9 o'clock line" onto the canopy (the vertical red line on the screenshots). Although it looks as if it is at an angle, it's truly vertical and represents your 3/9 o'clock position. The interesting thing about this line is, that it moves revative to the leading plane only when there is a speed difference between the aircraft. Drifting to one side does not affect this behavior at all. So it gives you pretty good and "incorruptible" speed/position information. From the screenshots in the reference section I found that your own head should be abeam the tip of the wingtip-rail, slightly low, so simply put the red line there.

The next thing I thought about was the obvious lack of depth perception on a 2D Screen. I wanted an indicator that tells me more about lateral spacing to lead. I therefore drew the horizontal line onto the canopy. The lateral spacing to lead is correct if the tip of this line points exactly at leads nose (provided the vertical line is in the correct position first). If thers's a deviation, simply steer the tip of the horizontal line towards leads nose.


www.alderwasguckstdu.de/Bilder/alright.jpg Correct longitudinal and lateral position.


www.alderwasguckstdu.de/Bilder/too%20close.jpg Too close! Steer tip of red line towards nose.


www.alderwasguckstdu.de/Bilder/too%20far.jpg Too far! Steer tip of red line towards nose.


Another nice feature is that the horizontal line represents your "eye-level", so you see if you are too low or too high in relation to lead. Also, the horizontal line moves up & down when rolling, I find that helpful in judging roll inputs.

I will trim away all unnecessary parts of the lines and make them fade away as much as possible, so that they are barely visible.

OMG this post has become far too long!!!! Sorry, just wanted to make sure not to miss anything important. Let me know what you guys think of this.

Dirty
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Post by TBT_Piper » Wed Jun 22, 2005 3:19 pm

Very nice. I think I will be using these :) 8) Make some more ;)
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Post by Burner » Thu Jun 23, 2005 3:03 am

Nice job, I may give those a shot, however you didn't give a link to the file ;)
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Post by Lawndart » Thu Jun 23, 2005 3:13 am

Nice thorough explanation Dirty and you did spend some serious time thinking about this, huh!? :shock:

I'm sure it will be a very useful tool to have, although I like my pit the way it is now without any clutter at all on my glass! :wink: 8)
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Post by JaBog32_Dirty » Thu Jun 23, 2005 6:56 pm

I have now trimmed the lines and made them slightly transparent.

look here:
http://www.alderwasguckstdu.de/Bilder/R ... 20V1.0.jpg

download them here:
www.alderwasguckstdu.de/Downloads/F-15-PIT-REFLECT.tga

...and replace the old ones in .../Bazar/TempTextures.

I found that the red cross is a big help, but the nosetip-marker has more of a theoretical meaning. It's great in straight & level flight, but during manoeuvres when it gets hot and hasty it's a bit distracting. But try for yourselves, I will stick with those for the next few sessions, and then adjust them as necessary.

And btw, hope to see you guys tonight, I will be on from 2100PST,... don't let me get up that early in vain :D

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Post by lieutfunaki » Tue Jun 28, 2005 1:07 am

Another marvelous training tool from Dirty! You rock!!!!
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Post by lieutfunaki » Thu Jun 30, 2005 3:46 am

Tried your cockpit line replacement today Dirty, and I liked them. The only suggestion I could make is to have something above the pilot's head. The old lines had the lines above the pilot's head as well...these were helpful for lining up with the center of the lead plane while in slot. If in the proper position, you don't need it, since you can use the canopy's supporting arch as a reference for your angle of attack in reference to the boss (an advantage we get from its unrealistic placement since we use the f-15 cockpit). But when out of position, especially slightly forward, or low...it is helpful to be able to quickly line up the cockpit line with the bottom of the boss's plane. Make sense? Otherwise, I like them...I am just a bit worried I'll get out of position and not have the same ease of reorientation in relation to the boss. Nicely done Dirty!
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Post by Lawndart » Thu Jun 30, 2005 3:05 pm

The top lift-line Smuckers is referring too is extremely helpful in the synchronized rollout the solos do from the Calypso pass. 5 (who's upside down) rolls out with a 270 degree roll to the left, starting from his inverted position and 6 who's in formation with him "picks" up his roll from level into a 90 deg left roll and then they peel off behind show center together. The only reference you'll have being number 6 is the lift line or canopy reflections and without the lines it takes quite a bit of muscle memory and feel to get it right.

I used to always fly with lift-lines, but since 1.1 I sort of forgot to install them and now I'm actually flying comfortably without any canopy lines. I'd definitely recommend any and all of these tools though!

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Post by JaBog32_Dirty » Fri Jul 01, 2005 9:48 am

Yeah, I came across those issues too :oops:. The center lift-line will definitely have to be drawn back onto the top of the canopy! It's #1 on my to-do-list!

And do you have any other suggestions? There are a lot of things that may or may not make sense. For example the 4-Plane-Cross. When all four planes come in on correct headings and distance from show center, the planes to your left & right appear exactly on your 10:30 and 01:30 'o clock. That is 45 degrees left and right off your nose. If there was a little dot on the canopy on this position you could see if you are ahead or behind those planes.

*scratching my head*...on the other side, I saw you guys fly through each others cockpit during that manoeuvre, so I figure you have already reached a level of precision that hardly requires any improvement. :D I just wanted to start a kind of "brainstorming" on what markings could be useful to have on the canopy.

Dirty :mrgreen:
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