Video of me landing in a Level-D 73'

Funky · Post by **Funky** » Wed Nov 16, 2005 8:05 pm

Hey y'all.

Today I found my own video that I submitted some 5 months ago on Google Video, and due to over-exitement (

) I decided to post it up here for you guys if you're interested to see it. No braggin from my part though... just thought you might like it

Note: Set your monitor to the max brightness cause the cockpit's quite dark, even with all the possible lighting in it. And remember to read the info on the side for additional info.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... 520&q=Vala

Also, just a bit of info on this: This is a 737BBJ sim in Boeing's Alteon training center in Long Beach CA. I went out there for a couple of hours of flight with a buddy of mine and as you may hear, there's a flight instructor that went with us in the sim. Definately a lot of fun and if anybody wants to to, I'll be definately be willing to go since the Sim rate is hourly. At this time I dont know how much it would be, but back in the days I flew, it was $150 an hour... pretty good eh? I have a friend there that might help me out a bit with that too, on later flights... but definately let me know if anybody wants to go... its open to public as long as you hava a SSN and a valid ID. They'll also give you a tour of the facility that's also really fun.

Hope you'all enjoy the video,

- Funky (AKA. Vala)

SilverOne · Post by **SilverOne** » Thu Nov 17, 2005 1:47 pm

lol real nice ... i always wanted to do that here , but the price is arround 350 ='(.

Post by **Lawndart** » Thu Nov 17, 2005 2:23 pm

Yep, these "toys" are expensive! The level D used by my company cost somewhere around $600-700/hour to rent, so I can see why few non-employees get to play around in these things and if they do, it's a lot of money out of ones own pocket.

Just watched that video once, but it sounded like someone asked about cruise? During initial training, you have to complete a FAA line oriented flight training session (or LOFT), which is basically a simulation of a real life flight from point A to B. It's not very useful, but required. This is usually done last in initial sim training upon completing the checkride and only counts for about 5-10% of the time spent in sim training. The rest is mostly emergency scenarios and engine failure/fires, as well as windshear, GPWS procedures and several combinations of workload overload (multiple failures at the same time). In the ERJ one failure they like to throw at you during takeoff roll either a IC-600 failure (computer) or DC bus failure. These will produce blank screens and a long list of EICAS messages, and it's really hard to distinguish what kind of failure occurred unless you know the screen configuration with an INOP IC-600 or DC bus and the differences seen between IC-600 #1 and #2, as well as losing either DC bus #1 or #2. Accelerating down the runway when this happens is not the time nor place to wonder what the heck just happened?! There's a lot those kind of scenarios we practice. Single engine ILS's, V1 cuts, engine fire on a missed approach are of course the main events, but in addition to those half way through the training course we have what's commonly referred to as "hell night". 4 hours of just loading you up with failures and if you do well, they'll keep loading you up more until your thinking almost comes to a halt. Along with the "anticipated" failures such as losing an engine, APU, fire etc. You'll also have hydraulic failures, pitch trim runaway, jammed flight controls or loss of artificial rudder feel and electrical shorts as well as smoke in the cabin. ALL AT THE SAME TIME! It's a learning experience, both knowledge wise and how well you function under high stress!

Ok, sorry for getting off on a tangent. Back to LOMAC now, where the flying is even more challenging!

Lawndart

Funky · Post by **Funky** » Thu Nov 17, 2005 5:30 pm

WOW dude

!!!! That's just a whole lot of failures... I didnt even know planes have that many things to go wrong with them... maybe we should ride our bikes from now on

The person asking about cruise was me... I shouldnt have... cause I was the PIC right at landing and his talking was throwing my attention off a bit... that's why I couldnt spell out cruise for him lol.

Anyways... that was a good 2 hours I spent on that thing 6 months ago and when I posted it, I was actually waiting for everybody's inputs, but specially yours since you do this for a living. Let me know if you ever come around here so we can go and have some fun in the SIM for a lot cheaper than you guys have it there!!

Well afterall, it was good to hear about all those failures from you lol and thank you Silver One for your input.

-Funky

SilverOne · Post by **SilverOne** » Fri Nov 18, 2005 9:17 am

lloll i know some peeps thaat are pilots ... you realy don't know what's going on inside the cockpit ... sseriusly ...

Funky · Post by **Funky** » Fri Nov 18, 2005 7:46 pm

SilverOne wrote:lloll i know some peeps thaat are pilots ... you realy don't know what's going on inside the cockpit ... sseriusly ...

Hmmm... I'm sort of lost... and definitely don’t understand you point here Silver One. I don’t know what you mean by I don’t know what's going on in the cockpit... but anyways, I don’t want to take this personal. And hey by the way, what I posted was supposed to be sarcastic in case it wasn’t clear. About me not knowing what's going on in the cockpit, hey, at least I seem to know how to hold my own after 4 years of flying in real. About the 737, I've had training on that thing by real pilots, but sure I'm nowhere near certified and that’s why I asked for feedback on the landing I accomplished.

Any you know what, I do sound stupid sometimes and that's ok, cause I like to ask a lot of questions... TBs know that for sure lol

Again, thanks for the input Silver One, and please, enlighten me with your knowledge whenever you a get a chance.

-Funky

SilverOne · Post by **SilverOne** » Fri Nov 18, 2005 8:12 pm

whow your giving me too much credit for this ... lol ...

i just know sum peeps that fly 3 hand airplanes , basicly in EVREY flight something goes wrong...

Funky · Post by **Funky** » Sat Nov 19, 2005 7:19 am

So Far, the most outstanding "wrong thing" that I've had happen to me was a radio failure, which by the way happened to be on one of my checkrides LOL.

-Funky

Cobra · Post by **Cobra** » Sun Nov 20, 2005 1:24 am

LD,

"hell night". 4 hours of just loading you up with failures and if you do well, they'll keep loading you up more until your thinking almost comes to a halt. Along with the "anticipated" failures such as losing an engine, APU, fire etc. You'll also have hydraulic failures, pitch trim runaway, jammed flight controls or loss of artificial rudder feel and electrical shorts as well as smoke in the cabin. ALL AT THE SAME TIME! It's a learning experience, both knowledge wise and how well you function under high stress!

That really sounds like negative training to me. Qantas sim rides used to be like that, until someone pointed out the statistical unlikeliness of multiple failures occurring just in the way a sim instructor sets them... think billions to one against..

Our license renewal sims now are much more sedate... thank goodness.