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Single ship takeoff question...

Posted: Fri May 30, 2008 11:15 am
by spaz
Attended the Star Spangled Salute at Tinker AFB on May 24th. Great show, and got to meet Maj. Scott Poteet. Very nice and informative guy.

My question is that during the take off sequence the diamond pilots took off single ship, then reformed behind the crowd for the initial pass, is this because it is still relatively early in the season? or have they stopped the formation takeoff?

Thanks for the help!

Spaz

Posted: Fri May 30, 2008 1:14 pm
by Burner
More than likely wind speed or runway length was outside minimums for a formation takeoff. They're still doing fingertip formation takeoffs. :)

Posted: Fri May 30, 2008 3:33 pm
by Lawndart
They'll do "lightning takeoffs" (single ship) when:

The runway isn't the standard 150-foot width needed for the four ship. Or if turbulence and crosswind component are (anticipated) to be to high in addition to what Burner already mentioned.

Posted: Fri May 30, 2008 3:42 pm
by franc01sss
You guys will always surprise me with your Thunderbirds knowledge!!!

hehe

Thanks

Posted: Fri May 30, 2008 9:12 pm
by spaz
i think the wind was the culprit. It was blowing over 25 mph that day. I'm pretty sure the runway was wide enough, (they used it the last time they were there for a formation takeoff) it was the main runway for TAFB, AWACS use it every day.

Thanks for y our info and keep up your outstanding work!!

Spaz

Posted: Fri May 30, 2008 9:45 pm
by Cinch
Being that I used to work on Tinker AFB back in the day in the B1B Corrosion Control Hanger. I know the Runway is wide and long enough so it has to be the wind as a factor. About this time in Oklahoma the winds are a pain.

Cinch